government is what -- big government is what invites the corruption. instead of protecting people's rights they are involved in recycling and lending money as they were and education and health care, that's what creates the corruption. sohrink government, it shrinks the size and scope and shrink corruption as well. >> wayne, you are huffing and puffing. >> because i don't believe that. if you start locking these guys up and putting them away for good yes, that will stop it. you got five cities in california that are in bankruptcy. you know what that's going to do to the municipal bond market. this money isgoing to dry up because you have thieves running it. you put them away for good. you electrocute a couple and that will stop it. >> i'm with wayne. look, it's going to make somebody think twice now. for the longest time it's been easy, paying bills, going on vacation and no one notices. now shows like this bring it to the forefront. maybe we're making a difference. >> i'm not condoning electrocuting people for stealing, however, i think the problem he